Debbie W. Wilson Talks About Her New Book ‘Little Faith, Big God’ Part 2

Rhonda Robinson: Enoch is one of your favorites?

Debbie W. Wilson: Enoch was one I love because he faithfully walked with God. And it says God took him and he was no more. And again, Rhonda, for those of us who can put ourselves under performance, there are two Enoch’s that are listed very close together in Genesis 4 and 5. And the first Enoch was a descendant of Cain, and Cain of course was that son of Adam and Eve who murdered his brother, Abel.

So his whole line was wicked. But they were superstars. They made it a Person of the Year. They were there.

Enoch had a city named after him. I think that’s pretty impressive. Uh, one of his relatives was the first to work in metal when was, the first to use different kinds of musical instruments, and was the first to gather livestock. And so I mean, these were, number one, they were superstars. And yet God commended none of them.

He commended Enoch. And what is Enoch remembered for? He’s remembered as a person who walked by faith. He walked by God with God. And the verse in Hebrews 11:6 says, without faith, it’s impossible to please God, that those who come to him must not only believe that He exists, but that He is a rewarder of those who seek Him.

That’s all God wants from us. So Enoch demonstrated a different aspect of faith of just simply believing God and walking with him. I love that.

RR: What you’re saying is that God remembered their faith and not their flaws?

Debbie W. Yes. And of course, Abraham, he believed when he believed that he would have a son. When he and Sarah were too old to have a baby. Romans says he looked at his body, and it’s as good as dead and he looks over at Sarah and goes, ah,
she’s her wombs dead, and his faith grew. Instead of going, well, this is not going to happen. He said, wow, God, you are amazing. You’re going to bring nations through these, these two people?

I love that their faith was based on their relationship with God, not what they could see, not what they could imagine not what they could picture, not what they could measure. It was on what God said, and who He was.

RR: That’s a reoccurring theme throughout the Bible, isn’t it?

Debbie W: Yes, it is. It’s faith. It’s faith in God and I like to walk by sight. You know, if I can measure things that makes me feel better, and yet again, Noah could not measure the impact of his faithfulness. Neither could Abraham. God promised to be the father of nations, that did not happen in his lifetime. And so many of God’s promises I saw Rhonda, are bigger than a lifespan. And you have to have an eternal perspective.

You know, we were talking about loss before we started. I think that in this life, we can understand that we need an eternal perspective. And I don’t think it will be till we get to heaven, that it will make any sense.

I was gonna say there a couple of times in Hebrews 11, talks about they did not receive the things promised they only saw them and welcomed them from a distance. Since admitting that they were foreigners and strangers on earth, and then at the end it says none of them received what had been promised since God had planned something better for us that only together with us would they be made complete or perfect.

So I think that was one of the things that stood out looking at this is that God is eternal. And we are just stuck in this little place that we, that this is all we see. And so if I go to a parade, I only see what’s in front of me. I may think that’s the whole parade. But you know, Santa Claus might be at the end of that. Right and so if I’m up in a blimp, I can see the beginning, the middle, and the end of the parade. But I’m standing in time in this one spot, and I read about some of the things that went before me, but I can’t see what’s coming behind me. And, that’s why we have to, I think these people are commended because they trusted that God did see. And that what he said was true.

I set out to write a book about faith. But as I began to write, I realized that it really is about grace. Because as I look at all of these people’s lives, their faith was a response to grace. They didn’t go seeking God. They didn’t dream a big things they wanted to do for God. God came and found them.

Abraham was living in a pagan family.

God found him.

Jacob is running away.

God found him.

And then Sampson, who had the best start. He blew it royally. And yet, God fulfilled his purpose through Samson. And when Samson after he had blown it terribly, and was humiliated, he calls out to God and God hears them and answers in and so it the biggest aha was this is really about grace.

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